john: for the record, bush did spend an astounding $3 trillion per year, but obama spent 3.8 trillion per year so far, and that is adjusted for inflation. so obama spent 25% more. but they don't believe that. they think it's all bush's fault. >> it's a special kind of kool-aid, it is half worship ms. with dilution -- mixed with dilution. look at the threats that are happening in this country? john: i hope we would learn from what happened in greece. but as of this week, no longer do because the reaction of people in greece is not to say we messed up, we spend too much, it is to be angry about the politicians who want to cut back. and how do they take it out, they bombed the homes of tv commentators who support this. so that is a model for us? >> unfortunately that is the road we are headed down. i live in california and we see it coming faster. we shouldn't be that close to greece being on the opposite coast, but we are. john: another model for failure. >> he said i was a model and i take that as a compliment. i studied in greece and i love greece and i understand the greek people. i